I don't know any women who would be comfortable sitting in Lodge with men who do not want them there.

We do feel, however, that some of the Malecraft Lodges would be open to intervisitation if the option were given to them. And that granting us regularity wouldn't necessarily _require_ Lodges to admit women or allow intervisitation. Ideally, there will be a time when 'regular' lodges will have the option of having men-only, women-only, or mixed lodges according the the needs and wants of each individual lodge.

A malecraft mason once argued that his oath only specified to not be present at the "making or raising of a woman" and that everything else is fair game. I can certainly see lodges maintaining those parameters and still have both genders coexist under one Order.

eucliptia said

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Division is only within the synagogue where prayer is done in one voice: the community. So even if a family member is halfway around the world, they are still praying together within the community.

This actually reminds me of the masonic question re the sun at its high meridian in relation to all of Freemasonry, because somewhere in the world it will be h.m.and as we are to be found w/wide and we are one family ,ipso facto we are praying for ALL of us at any given time ie we are a w/wide community!?

hmm.... seems the topic had gone a bit astray but nevertheless very informative...
all the best
S&F

dbdent wrote:

This actually reminds me of the masonic question re the sun at its high meridian in relation to all of Freemasonry, because somewhere in the world it will be h.m.and as we are to be found w/wide and we are one family ,ipso facto we are praying for ALL of us at any given time ie we are a w/wide community!?

At the risk of diverting the topic even further, let me suggest that the explanation of the sun at its meridian is a case of veiling in allegory. For example, the explanation is more true for fishing and golf than it is for Masonry.

The clue is that the light from the sun at its meridian constitutes a plumbline

Cheers

Russell